Title: confused
Description: dont know wot nitro buggey to get ?
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 02:03 AM (GMT)
i had a hpi mt2 g3.0 n it was ok but not great so im lookin for somit better n i really dont know wot to get my mate has just got a hyper 7 .21 it looks really good quility but i want somit thats got a good all round accel n top end i have 2 to 3 hundred to spend but dont know wot to spend it on so i am open to ne surgestions as there is much to chose from n i really aint got a clue wot to pick cheers
Nitroazza - January 28, 2010 03:11 AM (GMT)
well mate, its not really about other peoples opinions, its about what you personally want.
have you got your eyes on any models so far? if you have, post us the links and we can do our best to point you in the direction of the best one for you
:thumbs_up:
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 08:50 AM (GMT)
well i want sommit that gonna beat my mates hyper 7 .21 both accel n top end. so ive been looking at alll the hyper buggies and the XRAY XB808. i would like the hyper 9 to be honest but they do it rtr do they? or at least i cant find 1.so would i b better off geting a hyper 8.5 n more important is it gonna own my mates hyper 7 .21?
jhn68 - January 28, 2010 10:43 AM (GMT)
What about the Hyper 7 tq 28. Would still leave you some cash left from your budget to buy anything else you may need.
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 10:57 AM (GMT)
well ive thought da mach 28 but there r mixed reviews on it? but r there plenty of hops ups for this? n more important i need somit that gonna beat my mates hyper tq .21 hahahaha.arnt i better off geting da hyper 8?
jhn68 - January 28, 2010 11:19 AM (GMT)
Im still very green to all things RC, but i have a Hyper 7 28 and my son has a hyper 7 black. so i've used both and the 28 does have i bit more torque than the 21.
As for hop-ups i guess the only limit is your budget. I've put cnc steering knuckles on both cars and im just waiting for a cnc front shock tower. and assuming nothing breaks next will probably be a jammin jp-3 pipe. Which the guys on here and a reliable retailer have said is a very good all round pipe to improve performance.
Above everything else though is parts for the 7's, they are always available and very reasonable.
ianski68 - January 28, 2010 12:28 PM (GMT)
to be honest its not about what Hyper range you look at 7, 8, 9 its what they are powered with. If you are saying you want a quick Hyper then get a Hyper 7 and stick a racing engine in it. I have Hyper7 with a Novarossi engine in and its a little screamer. it might come in slightly over your budget.
Or you could go for a Hyper 7 with the Mac 28-6. will be in budget
heres a few things to look at :thumbs_up:
My Hyp 7 Nova.......
My sons Hyp 7 28-6
go's like a ROCKET
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 01:32 PM (GMT)
so if i buy the hyper 7 mach .28 n put jamin 3 exhaust system on it is it gonna beat my mates hyper 7 .21? i will proberly put a new engine in it when it goes ne idea of how long the hyper 7 .28 wil last ? is there n stage 2-3 hop ups for aair filters ? thank for all the replies there all helping me make the right chose
ianski68 - January 28, 2010 05:36 PM (GMT)
The Mac 28 is a very strong engine if looked after. i have one in my Hyper ST and it takes a sh*t load of abuse :D :D
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 06:19 PM (GMT)
well thats good then :D :D so can any 1 recomend a exhaust system ive cn a jamin 3 but im wantin somit for da top end so is the jamin 4 better ? as this will make up for the tope end which the hyper 7.28 lacks
jhn68 - January 28, 2010 07:08 PM (GMT)
Without being rude it will all be i vain if your mates a better driver
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 08:27 PM (GMT)
wel were bout the same. but is it gonna improve the top end though? i just like to hav the bset stuff for the car ive got.
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 08:30 PM (GMT)
so basicilly ur sayin da hyper 7.21 is better so i should buy that n then do som hop ups ? is that wot ur telling me in a round bout way ?
russmini - January 28, 2010 08:44 PM (GMT)
Don't take this the Wrong way, but...
If it's Speed that your so worried about, buy an On-Road Schumacher Fusion .28
However, if it's a car that'll go on pretty much every type of surface and be Good, buy a Hyper or similar.
I just think your getting caught up in this... I want to be Quicker thing i see so much.
The First thing anyone asks when they see any of my cars when i'm out with them is...
How Fast is it mate ???
And as i've said on here somewhere before... I haven't got a clue, for any of them.
They are all Geared accordingly and i know what's best. This is for Competition and Bashing.
:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
jhn68 - January 28, 2010 08:57 PM (GMT)
If your thinking of doing competitions then i dont think you can use the macstar 28. But someone on here would have to verify that.
If you want to beat your mate then i would say go with the 28. You'll see from the link below there is not much difference in price.
http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=...D=258&ShowCar=1I put a set of these on my 28, i personally didn't like the standard shocks.
http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=...on&ItemID=32823they are 20mm adjustable shocks. The Black Edition comes with 16mm which you adjust by the way of plastic clips.
russmini - January 28, 2010 09:02 PM (GMT)
Correct John, you can't race .28 size engines.
In fact there is a poor bloke on another forum trying his hardest to race somewhere, all because he bought something with a .28 engine in thinking it would be Fast and therefore better in racing. Should have done his homework first...
:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
rccruzer - January 28, 2010 10:03 PM (GMT)
rember power is nouthing without control your mate could have a 28 on it but if it wheel spins then he is only getting 75% of the power but you could have a 21 but be getting 100% power down witch one do u think is the beter car dont get m e wrong lots of power is great but is only as good as the person behind the sticks
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 10:09 PM (GMT)
im not rely bothered bout comps n that just want somit beter than my mates n i dont know which 1 to hav theres da black edtion da 7.5 8.5 n da .28 n .21 so rellt i just aint got a clue which 1 is gonna b better. i want the .28 but ive cn review that r sayin its a pig to tune is this correct ?
rccruzer - January 28, 2010 10:20 PM (GMT)
most nitros are a pain to tune lol you could always get a model shop to show u time patients and practice are the best thing when it comes to tuning and im still learning with every engine iget
colin120886 - January 28, 2010 10:25 PM (GMT)
i hav got a genreal idea of how to tune but not perfect ;) but which hyper would u say is the better version? rrcuzzer
rccruzer - January 28, 2010 10:34 PM (GMT)
to be honest they all have good plus bad points dont own any hypers but they all look as go as each outher best bet would be to by a kit then you can put on anything you like iv seen a kit from a rc shop and looks really good and leaves you open to put on any thing you want :)
jhn68 - January 28, 2010 10:58 PM (GMT)
If you want a good all round performer then you wont be disappointed with a hyper 7.
I took these guys advice and to be honest they were spot on. And if you need help on the tech side once you get your kit there is always someone willing to help out. Just remember your P's and Q's.
So if your looking to count votes mine would be a Hyper 7 TQ 28.
Rossy - January 28, 2010 11:33 PM (GMT)
Well let me have an impact on this if your going to buy one i would go with the 21 engine
1. Race legal
2. Spares availability far better
3. I found between the mac 21 and 28 the 21 seems to have a much better compression may be wrong but is just what seemed about it.
4. BIG ONE when you come to see it if you get the 21 engine there is a bigger market for buyers in the racing/ comp side of things.
Honestly 21 you will not be let down.
Any engine when tuned properly and the right gearing on it pulls away form them which are not kept up to date with tuning ect...
My 15 pulls away from a pirate mt sport with a 28 mac no problems only because thats not tuned properly. And has always been a sod for some reason.
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 08:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jhn68 @ Jan 28 2010, 10:58 PM) |
If you want a good all round performer then you wont be disappointed with a hyper 7.
I took these guys advice and to be honest they were spot on. And if you need help on the tech side once you get your kit there is always someone willing to help out. Just remember your P's and Q's.
So if your looking to count votes mine would be a Hyper 7 TQ 28. |
so ur mach .28 aint been a bugger to tune then cuz alot of peps hav said that they r but ten others jusst all nitros are a bugger to tune ? DONT KNOW WHO TO LISTEN 2 !!!!!!
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 08:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rossy @ Jan 28 2010, 11:33 PM) |
Well let me have an impact on this if your going to buy one i would go with the 21 engine
1. Race legal
2. Spares availability far better
3. I found between the mac 21 and 28 the 21 seems to have a much better compression may be wrong but is just what seemed about it.
4. BIG ONE when you come to see it if you get the 21 engine there is a bigger market for buyers in the racing/ comp side of things.
Honestly 21 you will not be let down.
Any engine when tuned properly and the right gearing on it pulls away form them which are not kept up to date with tuning ect...
My 15 pulls away from a pirate mt sport with a 28 mac no problems only because thats not tuned properly. And has always been a sod for some reason. |
please elaberate on the compression part cuz i dont understand ?
ianski68 - January 29, 2010 10:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rossy @ Jan 28 2010, 11:33 PM) |
1. Race legal
2. Spares availability far better
3. I found between the mac 21 and 28 the 21 seems to have a much better compression may be wrong but is just what seemed about it.
4. BIG ONE when you come to see it if you get the 21 engine there is a bigger market for buyers in the racing/ comp side of things.
Honestly 21 you will not be let down.
Any engine when tuned properly and the right gearing on it pulls away form them which are not kept up to date with tuning ect...
My 15 pulls away from a pirate mt sport with a 28 mac no problems only because thats not tuned properly. And has always been a sod for some reason. |
yes it has to be a 21 to be race legal but from the sounds of it you want it for fun not racing! i hope i am correct in my thinking..?
The Mac 28-6 is much better than a mac21 far more torque , ideal for giving it some abuse, i should know i have one in my ST and just speak to minivtec, he will also agree :thumbs_up: Then stick it in a buggy chassis which is a 3rd less in weight its a rocket.
As for spares there are no difference in availability if anything much eisier as there is only one model Mac28-6 but with the 21 there several ranging from the standard 21-2 , 21-4, 21-T, 21sport..
And to be honest if you wanted to race it wouldnt matter what engine you have in it because you would rip it out and fit a Race Tunned unit in, and probably a totaly better car. Not saying that the Hyp 7 is not good but you would'nt bring a knife to a gun fight. ;)
My opinion anyways
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 12:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ianski68 @ Jan 29 2010, 10:41 AM) |
| QUOTE (Rossy @ Jan 28 2010, 11:33 PM) |
1. Race legal
2. Spares availability far better
3. I found between the mac 21 and 28 the 21 seems to have a much better compression may be wrong but is just what seemed about it.
4. BIG ONE when you come to see it if you get the 21 engine there is a bigger market for buyers in the racing/ comp side of things.
Honestly 21 you will not be let down.
Any engine when tuned properly and the right gearing on it pulls away form them which are not kept up to date with tuning ect...
My 15 pulls away from a pirate mt sport with a 28 mac no problems only because thats not tuned properly. And has always been a sod for some reason. |
yes it has to be a 21 to be race legal but from the sounds of it you want it for fun not racing! i hope i am correct in my thinking..?
The Mac 28-6 is much better than a mac21 far more torque , ideal for giving it some abuse, i should know i have one in my ST and just speak to minivtec, he will also agree :thumbs_up: Then stick it in a buggy chassis which is a 3rd less in weight its a rocket.
As for spares there are no difference in availability if anything much eisier as there is only one model Mac28-6 but with the 21 there several ranging from the standard 21-2 , 21-4, 21-T, 21sport..
And to be honest if you wanted to race it wouldnt matter what engine you have in it because you would rip it out and fit a Race Tunned unit in, and probably a totaly better car. Not saying that the Hyp 7 is not good but you would'nt bring a knife to a gun fight. ;)
My opinion anyways
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yes ur correct im just wanting 1 for da mess bout n not for racing. like i keep on asking there r bad reviews for da mac.28 wit tuning it r these true cuz 1 says its ok n others say its a pig to tune.WHO DO I BELIVE !!! ;)
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 01:05 PM (GMT)
CAN NE 1 TELL ME IF THIS IS A GOOD DEAL OFF FLEA BAY CUZ IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD 1 2 ME :D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hyper-7-NEW-8-port-e...=item1c0fc429c7 ianski68 - January 29, 2010 01:33 PM (GMT)
its like al yhings for sale, if you cant touch it, smell it, eat it, try it! you do not know what you are getting. As you are a newbie, i would say better to get yourself a new car, rather than a second hand one. Unles you know the person selling and have first hand seen it.
Hers what i would do Buy this, a great deal saving about £40.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOBAO-HYPER-BLACK-RT...=item53dd7a2b76That will make it £210.00 delivered. It will give you a good starting point for future modifications or a race engine. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 01:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ianski68 @ Jan 29 2010, 01:33 PM) |
its like al yhings for sale, if you cant touch it, smell it, eat it, try it! you do not know what you are getting. As you are a newbie, i would say better to get yourself a new car, rather than a second hand one. Unles you know the person selling and have first hand seen it.
Hers what i would do Buy this, a great deal saving about £40.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HOBAO-HYPER-BLACK-RT...=item53dd7a2b76
That will make it £210.00 delivered. It will give you a good starting point for future modifications or a race engine. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: |
i just thought that were a good 1 :D cuz it got most of da upgrades :D but if i can get a blackedtion 4 210 :drool: then ive got 90 quid left in my budget so wots da best hopups 1st other than da cnc knuckles :P
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 02:06 PM (GMT)
plus can ne 1 tell me wheather the boost bootle is ne good n will it go on the .21 or the mach.28 or both ?
ianski68 - January 29, 2010 02:34 PM (GMT)
get yourself Fuel, igniter and some tools.
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 02:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ianski68 @ Jan 29 2010, 02:34 PM) |
| get yourself Fuel, igniter and some tools. |
i know im a novice but i know that much so wot hop ups do u recomend n is that boost bottle ne good ?
ianski68 - January 29, 2010 06:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (colin120886 @ Jan 29 2010, 02:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (ianski68 @ Jan 29 2010, 02:34 PM) | | get yourself Fuel, igniter and some tools. |
i know im a novice but i know that much so wot hop ups do u recomend n is that boost bottle ne good ?
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CNC knucles
Upgraded Servo's
Big Bore Shox
Bump Box
CNC Shox Towers
Sway bar set
Failsafe
practical stuff, no BLING :bling: :bling: :bling:
colin120886 - January 29, 2010 06:25 PM (GMT)
ne thing that will make it go a bit faster like jamin jp4 exhuast n boost bottle and a 2 speed grearbox thank for all da top advice :D
ianski68 - January 29, 2010 06:29 PM (GMT)
stick a race tuned pipe on it and run it on 25% nitro, Boost bottles dont work, and 2 speed gearbox not worth the hassle. i think you might be expecting too much from it B) B)
wolfie1 - January 29, 2010 09:45 PM (GMT)
if your in it for fun then seriously get a monster truck i have a few cars and none bring a smile like my savage does
colin120886 - January 30, 2010 07:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ianski68 @ Jan 29 2010, 06:29 PM) |
| stick a race tuned pipe on it and run it on 25% nitro, Boost bottles dont work, and 2 speed gearbox not worth the hassle. i think you might be expecting too much from it B) B) |
let say for instanes i got da hyper7 mach 28 and put a jammin jp4 exhaust sytem on it is it gonna make up for top end speed that the mach 28 poorly lacks with out losing da bottom end grunt ?
russmini - January 30, 2010 08:43 AM (GMT)
Come on mate, i think your taking this too far now. 3 Pages of will this be quicker etc etc etc. We're not getting anywhere with it.
Just go buy yourself a Hyper of some description. Then go home and ENJOY !!!!
You can think about maybe a better, more race bread exhaust at some point. There is never really that much between rtr's anyway...
:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
ianski68 - January 30, 2010 01:47 PM (GMT)
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
2nd that ;)
